Monday, February 28, 2011
Will post later on the Penner deal. More stuff trickling in. Canucks bring in Higgins and LaPierre. Nice.
2:46pm Simmons again hits the nail on the head. Does not help them get better. Maybe longterm. Maybe.
Tuebert having a bad year in the AHL, believes he should be playing in the NHL. Um. OK then.
The Hat says he's maybe a fourth or fifth defenceman in the NHL. Maybe.
He's a fourth defenceman in the AHL right now so probably the same for this Oilers' club.
2:39pm Its either love it or hate it on the Penner deal. Funny that all of the media think its fantastic. Although this whole thing where the Oilers are getting cap space is pretty fucking goofy. Who gives a shit.
What bugs me is that it sounds like he may have had interest in signing with the Oilers. We'll never know I would guess but if thats true then its shit. Trading a proven player for lottery tickets, and thats all they got, is poor management. Now if he was not going to sign then that changes things.
Apparently Smid and Hemsky not going anywhere. I would bet Jones and JVM still to move.
The key to this is Teubert and people a lot more connected than me are saying he's not all that good. A poor man's Alex Plante.
2:25pm There's the big one. Penner for a first, Teubert and a conditional pick.
Pierre says a huge bounty and MacT seems to agree.
Paajarvi slides up the lineup. And I would bet that Hemsky extends this summer. Great news on that front. But the Oilers are a whole lot shittier right now.
Penner is going to help LA. A lot.
More later on this.
2:12pm Bryan Allen, who had a no trade (WTF), for Samsonov. Okayyyyy.
Brad Winchester to the Ducks for a third. If he's worth a third could Ryan Jones not bring in the same?
2:09pm Matthew Barnaby the voice of reason when it comes to the Oilers' situation. Moving 83, 27 and 5 for picks would be stupid.
Peca makes it simple. Trade them if it makes them a better club. If not then forget it.
Smart guy that Mike Peca.
2:03pm Campoli brings in a second and old friend Ryan Potulny. Potulny will probably get a roster spot I would think. He's good enough to play on a terrible team. He proved that last year.
1:57pm Chicago picks up Campoli for a pick and player to be named. Pierre says they are still looking for another. Allegedly they were after Smid. I wonder if thats it for Laddy.
1:43pm And Ferraro makes the point - why move MacArthur - he's a good player and if he goes then you need to replace him.
I made the same argument about Penner and Hemsky a couple of weeks ago. If they want to sign then moving them for futures is stupid unless we're talking can't miss kids. Hemsky leads the team in scoring, almost a point a game. Sure Hall and Eberle are great but doesn't it make sense to have as many good players as possible?
1:39pm I wonder if next week they'll move the show to a start date two weeks prior. Might be necessary by the looks of it. Four deals so far.
1:27pm Oiler scrimmage, light hearted and lots of fun, guys wondering if they will be the lucky one to get moved from this horror show. ;)
Shawn Belle gets moved, this will be what, his seventh club? Can't crack this lineup, you're a career minor leaguer.
Coming back - Bernard Montgomery? Montgomery Clift?
Kevin Montgomery. I think he owns our neighbourhood deli.
Maguire says Penner is not even worth a first round pick. Oh Pierre please get a GM's job somewhere. MacT defends Penner, he's been very good the last two years he says.
MacT is pretty classy.
1:26pm Not sure if its the inaction or the fact that I had sex last night but I feel strangely at peace.
1:20pm Discussion as to why there have been no trades.
Bissonnette laments the loss of his running mates Lepisto and Upshall, the only two single guys on the club. Now he'll have to hang out with the married guys when they go out on a beaver hunt.
The Hat just said that Smid is the key to Chicago defending their title. Naw I must have misunderstood that.
Philly, Boston, Pittsburgh, Washington may all be done. Anything that happens will probably be out west I would guess.
12:53pm Klesla for Upshall and Lepisto. Meh.
You want excitement? I just had lunch. Chicken nuggets and fries.
And the cat just knocked a plant over. Fucking retard.
12:16pm You'd think they'd just start this around noon although they did have some nice in depth look at the Canadian teams in the morning. For example Pierre found out that Hemsky is a better winger than centre.
Now replaying last year's deals. Quality.
Apparently Jones has rejected the Oilers' offer. It was low. Has Tambellini figured this out?
Not likely but there is always hope. Actually that's all we have left.
12:08pm Just back from picking up the boy. Wideman to Washington for very little. Wonder if Vandermeer brings a third? He has been far better over the last two months - certainly a lot more anger in his game.
And Atlanta picks up Schremp. Last stop before the Italian league.
11:15am Oh yes and Pierre asks if Hemsky is a better centre or winger.
Wow that's a fucking quality. MacT just looked at him. "Um, definitely a better winger."
Oilers asking for a tonne, again they say. Very good.
Interesting debate on whether or not Tambo HAS to make a move. I would say no. Hopefully he and his bosses think the same.
Schenn not in the conversation. The Hat says Simmionds, Forbert and a first.
11:03am Steve Simmons makes sense for once - trading Hemsky is stupid. Then he says Smid is their best defenceman. OK so that did not last long.
Farber says ST has done a good job selling the rebuild. Easy to do when the media does the selling for you.
Sophisticated hockey fans says the Hat. Simmons says rubes.
There are both, same as any other team. Problem is same as other teams the rubes outnumber the sophisticated.
10:56am Hire Craig Button now, would you? He says - young players don't help you win. At some point you need to stop getting younger or it spirals out of control.
lol, MacT begs off on the Penner or Hemsky question but he does give Hemsky a boost - big performer he says; Ferraro and Pierre also say they would take Hemsky.
10:45am I don't know a whole lot about Bergfors but trading a kid that you wanted for Kovalchuk for a pending UFA doesn't make a lot of sense. Pressure to make the playoffs must be pretty strong because this realy makes no sense unless Bergfors is a complete bust.
10:35am Nothing yet. Twitter says they asked for Leddy for Smid. ST definitely swinging for the fences apparently.
I say Vandermeer definitely moves. I'd bet Smid does as well. Jones apparently has an extension on the table, if he does not take it then they move him. Penner or Hemsky possibly as well.
If ST sticks to his guns then it will be interesting to see if Lombadi caves. Ownership may tell him to pull the trigger.
That's a lot of guys on the move.
First trade - Dvorak to Atlanta for Bergfors and Rissmuller. Atlanta kind of looks like they're fucked imo but it looks like they are buying.
10:20am If Vandermeer and Smid are in play and Peckham is concussed does Gilbert play 45 minutes a night?
10:07am Had a lot of fun at the Leafs' game Saturday night btw. Very entertaining. Saw John Shannon on the way in, he was checking his Blackberry. "Big trade to announce there John?" I said. He chuckled. "Nothing yet."
Dreger repeats that Hemsky is likely gone today. He also says that Tambellini is asking for a huge return. Better not flinch you fucker.
10:02am Justin Williams signs four year extension with LA. Here is the thing with LA - is Brown a RW or LW? He is listed as a RW but he must play LW as well, why else would they be interested in Hemsky.
I like Williams a lot, he's injury prone but he's a good player.
Apparently the Oilers have to have Schenn in any deal for Hemsky. If that's the deal (Schenn plus) then while I'll be unhappy if Hemsky goes at least the return would be quality for once.
9:54am Duthie remarks that Edmonton wants to go with youth youth youth and get rid of everybody; if you need me I'll be hanging from a rafter in the basement. Fuck me.
9:45 am Working from home today so I'm going to be posting here regularly on what's happening.
Watching TSN last night and went to bed nervous and pissed off. Discussion revolving around the Oilers focussing on Hemsky and Smid with Dreger saying that with the exception of the kids all bets are off, which is fine and to be expected.
But what twigged my interest - Smid not fitting into the cluster that they are building in Edmonton, not because of his play but because of his age.
That's right folks. Laddy Smid is too old for this club.
Remember what Lowe said - four to six years? This confirms it. They're not done burning this sucker down yet. We're looking at top two pick this year and likely next year as well by the sounds of it.
Its the Nordiques' model. And all I can say is if this is the case then the only acceptable result is a Stanley Cup. If we fans are going to have to put up with a terrible team for the foreseeable future after five years out of the playoffs already then there had better be a Cup.
Dreger echoed my thoughts about today. We could see Vandermeer moved and little else or we could see a massive amount of movement. Smid is in play. Hemsky and Penner are garnering interest but the Oilers' price is apparently huge, at least for Hemsky, as it should be.
I want Hemsky to stay and extend his deal but I have a feeling today is going to be a day of sorrow for Oiler fans, much like the deadline day in 2007.
Lets hope not.
Friday, February 25, 2011
Having said that, Schenn and Simmonds? That's LA's best prospect and a young NHL player and a pretty good one at that. Sign Penner and get that for Hemsky and while I don't know if I could get totally behind it I could probably live with it. Schenn is about as good a bet as you can find outside of the NHL I would say.
We'll see. I can't see LA giving up that much and if Tambo is asking for that and sticking to it then good on him.
Here's a little haiku action.
Two year old daughter
Hemsky and Penner
(hat tip to Deano for the gag)
"The smallest market"
Franchise in the ditch
Sore vagina flu
Tambo Lowe LaForge
Souray on the farm
Tom Selleck's moustache
Oh Anne Hathaway
Wednesday, February 23, 2011
Was in Twitter blackout yesterday for nearly six hours and I almost died. I remember a while back I was at The Communist Bar with messrs Dellow and Winters and not really getting it. Now ... well its like the crank for me ... the reason for the blackout was getting together with same to watch Spurs cough one up versus Blackpool ... I mentioned to Ty beforehand that this was the classic trap game, Spurs coming off of their big victory, Bale and van De Vaart, amongst others, out, and so it was although I have never seen so many golden chancesgo awry. In the end though Blackpool was full value making their biggest (only?) fans in Canada very very happy.
Although I could have done without the taunting and stabbing when I tried to take my leave.
Afterwards we turned it to the Oilers' game and oh dear, from an exciting passionate sporting event to probably the worst thing a person can watch. Oilers versus the Wild and it contained everything we'd expect from such a matchup. Gilbert and Hemsky getting drilled from behind into the boards with no retribution of any sort. Smid making a bonehead play to allow a Pierre Marc Bouchard goal. Khabibulin losing. A 5 on 3 wasted (ah memories of the SCF in 2006) without even a moderately dangerous play by our side. An ex Oiler traded for nothing excelling for a club way ahead of the Oilers in the standings. (If I had a dollar for every time a guy dismissed an Oiler moved out as lousy "what does it matter - Brodziak is a dime a dozen" I'd be awash in cocaine and hookers RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT!!!).
As we watched a club that once motivated all three of us to write about them (and still has the same effect on two of us) thoughts turned to the incompetence of Oilers' management and what a hateful disaster this has become.
Good times. It is always good to get together with men you have met on the Internet.
Other big news, Jenn and I are celebrating our tenth anniversary this year and are getting away, just the two of us, to the Dominican. Going to be fucking awesome. Will miss a week of the playoffs, which will be weird, but of course as an Oilers fan I can probably book a spring vacation every year until my kids graduate university and I'm probably not going to miss much.
It really is going to be great - we're going to an adults only resort and if you are like me you are thinking about porn right now. Every time I hear 'adults only' I hear the cheesy music and in this case I imagine Ron Jeremy asking who ordered the pina colada in a bad Spanish accent.
There is close to a fever pitch about Hemsky and Penner getting traded. Personally I think that Hemsky is not on the block and will sign an extension this summer but that they have gotten calls about him. Get a call, have to take it but by all accounts they are asking for a ton, as it should be.As for Penner I think he's a goner. He's a fairly smart guy I believe and while he is not going public with any requests I am certain that he looks at this shitshow and has a calendar at home with numbers counting down to July 1st, 2012. I do not think he will extend and if that is the case then the Oilers have to move him. Unless its a miracle I would doubt that the return is reasonable value - replacing a guy who drives results and scores 25 goals or so a year is not likely.
Had to laugh at some moron at the EJ who said in comments that they should trade Hemsky and Penner because the Oilers are a 30th place club with them. Nice reasoning. I presume someone wrote the comment for him because someone that dumb likely cannot read or write. Without Hemsky and Penner these jokers would have about a dozen wins.
Keep your good players and add more. Its really pretty straight forward. Trading everyone over 21 guarantees that the team will be worse and also guarantees that those guys who are still around will get out as soon as they can.
Oh well. Job security for Lowe and Tambellini.
I will try my best to do a live blog on deadline day and I'm going to try and post on all that has transpired so far before then. It certainly has been an exciting couple of weeks. My guess for the Oilers is either a meh day with Vandermeer moved and not much else or some seriously over the top shit.
Saturday, February 19, 2011
Pat - Testing.
Tyler - Hello and welcome to the Tyler Dellow show with me, Tyler Dellow, Pat McLean
Pat - Hello
Steve - And Terry Sawchuk is dead ....
Steve - Well, I looked at the team and I thought, well, if everything breaks right we might need a veteran goaltender, you know, who could win us the Cup.
Tyler/Pat - HAHAHAHAHAHA
Tyler - You thought the Oilers could win the Cup with that roster.
Steve - well, yeah
Tyler - that shitty roster
Steve - well, you never know, its like that fellow, you heard about him, he was killed by a gorilla
Pat - By a gorilla, where was that?
Steve - on Whyte Avenue
Tyler/Pat - HAHAHAHA
Tyler - You're talking shit! That never happened!
Steve - Oh yeah, last summer. This fella was walking down Whyte Avenue and then a gorilla leapt out from an alley and it tore him to pieces.
Pat - A gorilla! Where did it come from? (snickering)
Steve - Well, he was at at the zoo see. And you know he was tired of it so he escaped.
Tyler - How did he escape?
Steve - Well, he was dressed like a man, see, and so he's ...
Tyler - Wait wait. He's dressed like a man. How the fuck does a gorilla get dressed up?
Steve - Well what he was doing is, people would come by, see, and you know they're hot, so they take off say, a hat, or a jacket, or their pants ...
Tyler/Pat - HAHAHAHA
Steve - right and so they put it down and he reaches out and grabs it
Tyler - So he assembled a wardrobe ....
Steve - Yeah
Pat - So there's some guy, he's at the zoo and he takes off his pants. Why would he take off his pants? And even more interesting, why would he not notice that they were gone?
Steve - Well, he'd be hot you know. So he'd take off his pants, to cool off.
Tyler - Talking Shit!!
Steve - And you know he'd be nice and comfortable and wearing his boxers and you know nobody noticed so he just figures well, I'll walk around like this, see. And then the gorilla grabs his pants. And so after a few weeks he has everything he needs and he's all like 'hey' to the zookeeper, 'hey, I got in here by accident, can you let me out?'
Tyler - What nonsense is this? And he believes it all, yeah?
Pat - Yeah.
Steve - And so the zookeeper is like 'oh well yeah', and he let him out you know and he says 'thanks very much for letting me out, it was unsafe in there with all of those gorillas'
Tyler/Pat - HAHAHAHHA
Tyler - You are so full of shit. So this gorilla steals a wardrobe, escaped from the zoo and then killed a man on Whyte Avenue? None of this ever happened. None of this ever happened.
Pat - Never mind that is all a figment of imagination but what does this have to do with signing Khabibulin?
Steve - well, see, your man who's walking down Whyte Avenue, you know, he gets up that morning, you know, maybe he's a little hungover, so he's on his way, to get a burger maybe or maybe he's going to Boston Pizza, well anyhow he leaves his house and if you said to him, 'well now you're going to get killed by a gorilla' well, he would say 'that's not going to happen, its a load of bullocks' but of course it did happen. So you know, its why I signed Khabibulin, you know, it was best to hedge my bets just in case we actually contended, well it would have been bad if we didn't have a Cup winning goalie, right?
Pat - so you signed Khabibulin because basically anything can happen, like you might get killed by a gorilla walking down Whyte Avenue. Which is something that never actually happened.
Steve - It did.
Tyler - That explains a lot. Steve Tambellini logic. Is there any intelligent life behind those dopey eyes you wanker? I guess we know the answer to that question would be no.
Stay tuned for the next episode when we discuss another Oilers' management disaster, Sheldon Souray, who Daryl Katz has paid an NHL salary, along with Jeff Drouin Deslauriers and Zack Stortini, to play in the minors. Souray is on waivers and, if claimed, will get paid only half of his remaining salary by Katz.
Its nice to be rich.
Thursday, February 17, 2011
Was chatting over at LT's the other day and frequent commenter (there, not here) Smarmy Boss made the point to me, after I ranted for a little bit about something or another, that really the whole thing should not be taken that seriously, its just games after all. I'm paraphrasing but I think I'm representing what he said fairly.
Now the reality is that I don't take it all that seriously, which of course is going to sound funny coming from a guy who has written hundreds of posts on the subject of the Edmonton Oilers but it is true. I certainly cared far more about sport when I was younger, when I had a lot more time on my hands and a lot less to care about. And when it comes to the Olympics and for that matter if the Oilers were to ever make the playoffs again (hahahahahaha, my imagination really does know no bounds, I'm like a child), then I certainly can become quite obsessive. I lose sleep during the Olympics, if you can imagine, (I also teared up quite frequently and still do as I see the retrospectives now airing on the anniversary) and although the memory is quite foggy (Iwas barely out of short pants!) I know that I took the 2006 run quite to heart.
When it comes to the Oilers right now I really can't be bothered. I like a lot of the players but the management has so completely botched it that I really can't get behind the organization very much. So on Saturday afternoon as the club that was put together to fail did so, again, I was forced to listen to Kevin Weekes sing the praises of a thirtieth place team and especially their disaster of a goaltender, although even Weekes slipped when he said that Khabibulin had not played really poorly in all of the games during his losing streak. Just the majority I guess, eh Kev?
But with Weekes and then the interviews with Lowe and LaForge I got the overwhelming picture in my head of the three monkeys. You know the ones - hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Because the franchise is in the toilet and nobody has a bad thing to say about it. Its truly amazing.
And then of course, as I wrote about earlier, I went to play hockey myself and had a ball. The Girl From Rawlins Cross used to shake her head at the fact that here I was, a fairly well read fellow, a fairly bright urbane guy, into the arts and knowledgeable about the world and politics and an eager cunnilinguist and here I was a living breathing hockey player. Like she expected that as a hockey player I had emerged from a block of ice with a jutting brow, looking like Dion Phaneuf you know. Hockey Player Smash Vase! She couldn't put it together and she could not figure out the attraction at all.
Of course anyone who has played team sports, not just hockey, knows the feeling. The camraderie. The pure joy of it all. There is no other way to describe it and I won't even try.
Back to the Oilers though and they sucked ass again on Sunday and Monday the headlines read about Himself coming down from the mountain and demanding that the club play hard.
Oh dear, it truly is to laugh. I wonder what the vets think when they look around at the kids and the over the hills gang and the scrubs - I know that if I were 27 and 83 I would be pretty fucking happy because one way or another I'm out of here in just over a year.
Whitney and Gilbert must figure its like a life sentence at this point.
There was such an odd collision of events over the last few days though, it really got me thinking. We had the team sucking ass, as it usually does, and bookending this were the appearances by Lowe and Tambellini, the two architects of this mess. And in the middle of it was the latest presentation of Oil Change where a panel of Edmonton media concluded that so far the club deserves a passing grade as they flounder towards another last place finish.
And in the comments of the Tambellini story there were all sorts of comments defending Tambellini because he is stuck with all sorts of horrible contracts that he has been bequeathed, never mind the fact of course that the worst of these is the one for the goalie that he signed, and on top of that the Oilers have tons of cap room as it now stands with which they could improve their club.
And its just six months into a rebuild the chorus sang, never mind the last four years out of the playoffs.
And damnit, Horcoff, Hemsky, Penner and Gilbert are the problem.
Oh me oh my.
So a part of me, a dark, dark little part of me that thinks dirty little thoughts and awful things and has unnatural urges, would love to see the handful of good players on the club traded for picks and middling prospects because we all know that will work out well and at some point I figure the worm has to turn for the guys who ran this franchise into the ditch. Right? Right?
Its always the players and the coaches but the guys who took a club from a break away from being a Cup winner to very possibly two consecutive last place finishes are still making a whole lot of money, all the while spouting off about culture change and doing things the right away.
LOL as the kids say.
But when Joanne Ireland leads off her column on Tuesday night's win with a tribute to Dopey and how he got the boys to finally!!! care!!! then you can see why Lowe and Karl Pilkington get their free pass. The media, for the most part, although Terry Jones is starting to get cantankerous, have given the men at the top a free pass and the fans are happy to turn around, bend over and take it.
So as fans we get what we deserve and I'm just as complicit really because here I am, complaining about these twats, but I still watch the games when I can.